28 Sep 10 – A couple of days ago, one of my readers, Phil Peterson, was looking at a satellite photo of southwestern Australia when he saw a bunch of huge elliptical shapes punched into the landscape.
The shapes jumped out at him, says Phil, because they’re all oriented in the same direction, SSW to NNE, and look like Carolina Bays.
As far as I know, no Carolina Bays have ever before been identified outside of the United States, so this could be a huge discovery!
I think these Australian ellipses could bolster my theory that the Carolina Bays were blasted into the ground during a magnetic reversal.
So, Australia readers, what do we have here?
- Does anyone know anything about these ellipses?
- Are they lakes?
- Are they shallow?
- Are they deep?
- How wide are they? (I can’t tell from the photo.)
- Do they have raised rims around the edges?
- Why are they all elliptical?
- Why are they all oriented in the same direction?
- What color is the soil around the edges?
- Is radioactivity higher than normal there?
According to the satellite photo there’s a road leading to one of them.
- Has anyone been there?
- How far north of Albany would you guess they are?
- Phil found the photo – dated 26 Sep 2010 – on NASA’s MODIS website here:
- See interactive map here:
- If you have Google Earth, you can zoom in on these elliptical depressions for yourself. Just copy and paste these coordinates:
34° 15′ 34.49″S, 117° 42′ 08.49″E.
- (That’s a fair distance SE of Perth, and closer to Albany. Actually, it’s NNW of Albany, and almost straight north of Mt. Barker.)
See more about the Carolina Bays here:
See also Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps.
Here are some of the replies:
Hi Robert, regular reader and have both books, love the way you link numerous theories together. I regularly fly over these formations and more in australia every several weeks.
As they exist nowadays most are very shallow and tend to collect water during winter which then evaporates every summer in the heat leaving behind salt crystals and mineralization. They usually occur at slightly lower terrains and as a result water courses tend to be integrated with them. Which came first is debated.
Western Australia has a large fault line that runs North South along its western Shore line called the Darling Scarp which collapsed in prehistory. As a result on the Western Shoreline if these occur within 20 to 40kms of the coast they are usually connected to collapsing limestone formations. The ones inland though are more interesting as these are over granite hard rock. Most are isolated and not part of river courses, but are lower points in the ground. Western Australian is very flat in these regions, so shallow depressions normally form isolated winter lakes. They also have higher concentrations in the lower South west, or are able to be recognised easier due to land clearing, and less desertification.
I will do some more research and report back. In the mean time here are some more in the region.
33° 35’15.93″S, 118° 31′ 8.92″E
29° 36’16.24″S, 115° 48′ 49.41″E
30° 08’12.59″S, 116° 21′ 48.28″E
33° 38’15.96″S, 118° 32′ 26.39″E
All the best Russell
I popped these coordinates into
Google Earth. Very impressive.
Meteoritic impact is no longer widely regarded as a plausible hypothesis.’
‘If bays can no longer be restricted to a single physiographic province and the list of potential terrestrial hypotheses is correspondingly reduced to subaerial mechanisms, the extraterrestrial hypothesis gains more credence and warrants additional study.’
This article contains the first aerial photo of Carolina Bays, taken in 1930: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=40692
This article, “Comparing Cheyenne Bottoms,” says that Carolina Bays are not a landform unique to the southeastern US. The same oriented lakes are found in Western Australia near Perth and in South Africa. The landform is also common throughout the tundra but the origins there are likely related to thermokarst conditions.
(same in the USA, South Africa, Oz)
Cometary fragments exploded in the atmosphere. The resultant shock waves created shallow elliptical depressions known as the Carolina Bays.
My personal opinion, Robert?
Although this looks like a cometary phenomenon, it could also be that a very close passage of Mars (!!!!) much earlier than 11.711 years ago, when suddenly the “switch” to a global warming period occurred, may have contributed to these wide-spread geological anomalies.
From what we know Mars must have been ‘hit’ by something, having a rather rough surface on the one part and a ‘flat -clean’ other half…
When we study mythology (and Velikovski) we could arrive at the opinion I express here…
Best for now,
Dr. John van Kampen · Granada
Very interesting photo. I did a maps.google.com search and found two sets of Carolina bays; try it yourself. Type in “Matilda Lake, Austrailia,” and you’ll see a bunch of eliptical lakes (you may have to pan out a little bit). If you pan out a little farther, you’ll see a second group almost northeast of there, just north of the Stirling National Park.
You can find them on a special google satellite map provided at http://f6fvy.free.fr/qthLocator/fullScreen.php . The lakes you posted on iceagenow appear to be at 34°15’S 117°45’E and appear to be about 65 or 70 miles north of Albany. The Matilda Lakes are at 34°25’S 117°30’E. The smaller lakes are about 15 miles SSW of the larger ones and are oriented in pretty much the same direction!
Good luck with your quest.
Stew (C. H. Stewart)
Calm down! They are just everyday old salt lakes. We have similar where I live on Kangaroo Island in South Australia. They vary in widths from about 50 yards to a mile or so. If you go onto Google or similar you can easily guage the size. They are very shallow and fill when you get good winter rains. Then they dry up leaving a crust of various salts. If you want something really interesting we’ve got a different kind here which have what they call lunettes around them – that is a ring of soil a bit like a steep sand dune around the perimeter, the lagoon itself being quite shallow. Then we have claypans. They are a few yards across, and are depressions in clay soil. They make life problematic when you are a farmer.
I hope this is of some help to you.
Sorry just saltpans, where salt comes to the surface!
I checked out some of the replies here. One guy said, “They’re just sand dunes, dude.Another said they spell DOOM in two years.
hi Robert ,
I live in Sw Victoria and we have a lot of shallow lakes and remnant saltpans that look a LOT like this from a height though, so dont get excited.
if you google the Horsham Edenhope areas in Victoria I think you will see them. they have been dry for many years now some have some water:-) they extend for over 100km
I believe this area was once underwater? we have lots of sand, beach sand. yet clay at 3ft inder and between that..what the locals call Buckshot, a bastard to dig into, small round ironstone pellets.
and yet? not a seashell OR limestone to be found anywhere, weird.
I will post this to agmates and see if the WA members know.
One person wrote to say, “They’re just lakes.”
Okay. If they’re just “lakes,” or they’re just “saltpans,” then why are they all elliptical? And why are they all oriented in the same direction? – Robert